Monday, October 25, 2010
Illinois' top League of Women Voters official said “phony patriotism” is driving criticism over a moderator's reaction when she was asked if the Pledge of Allegiance would be recited before an 8th Congressional District debate this week.
Executive Director Jan Czarnik said what happened at Wednesday's debate and subsequent criticism directed at moderator Kathy Tate-Bradish was an attempt by supporters of Republican candidate Joe Walsh of McHenry and tea party members to bully the organization.
Czarnik said someone is not a better American just by reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
“It's a phony patriotism issue is what it is,” she said. “They must think it helps their campaign.”
Brought in from the League of Women Voters Evanston branch because she doesn't live in the 8th Congressional District, Tate-Bradish handled the event at Grayslake Central High School that featured Democratic U.S. Rep. Melissa Bean of Barrington, the Green Party's Bill Scheurer and Walsh.
Tate-Bradish was asked whether the Pledge of Allegiance would be recited after she went over some ground rules and directed the candidates to make opening statements. The query came from a man in the audience.
As Tate-Bradish explained the debate was not scheduled to start with the pledge, almost all in the crowd of more than 300 stood and enthusiastically recited it anyway. Tate-Bradish, who joined in the pledge, issued a scolding when the crowd finished. (...)
Island Lake resident Joseph Ptak, a Walsh supporter, claimed Friday he asked for the pledge at the debate. (...)
Ptak, 58, a U.S. Air Force veteran, said the pledge was a proper way to begin the event that was in a high school and had student participation. He said many veterans were in the audience, and he objects to Czarnik questioning the request's sincerity.
“I'm a Joe Walsh supporter, but first and foremost I'm an American,” Ptak said.
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In such a situation, there's two right answers then someone asks if you're gonna lead with the pledge of allegiance:
1. Yes, we will, thanks for the reminder.
2. Yes, we will, will you be kind enough to lead us?
And America's march toward full-on fascism continues unabated...
Yep. First it's the pledge of allegiance, then next thing you know it's the showers and ovens. Everything is a slippery slope when you're out-of-your-fucking-mind batshit crazy.
If today's political climate continues, we'll get there eventually, Anon.
After they finished, she should have recited it again. And again. Between each question. You can never have too much pledging of allegiance to a flag.
Why stop there? Let everyone present open their veins to put a bit of their blood on the sacred cloth! (but check their true Americaness first lest impure or commie vile liquid taints it).
Seriously, it would be a nice test case how many would be willing to actually do it in the proper fired up atmosphere.