Friday, February 22, 2008
How low can Taylor Marsh go?
Really low. Acting like a concern troll, her latest post: Barack Obama's Willie Horton
, links Barack Obama with the domestic terrorist couple Bernardine Dohrn
and William Ayers
Some background: Dohrn and Ayers were involved in the 1969 anti-Vietnam War Days or Rage
(when Obama was eight years old), and subsequent bombings in 1970. In 1981 they turned themselves in and did some jail time. In the next two decades, Dohrn became an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University, Ayers became a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois.
The connection with Obama? It began when State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of Dohrn and Ayers.
Anyway, back to Taylor Marsh. She writes:
The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth won't have to make stuff up about Obama. His relationship with Ayers is a fact, as they also were both seated on a nine-member board of the Woods Fund in 1999, for three years. In lieu of that connection, even in the face of a measly $200 contribution from Ayers to Obama, as well as the Obama campaign's statement decrying Ayers' actions when he was with the terrorist group The Weather Underground, quotes like the one below from Ayers are a general election gift to your opponent, especially considering Obama has no problem sitting on a board with this thug, or taking a meeting with him when launching your political career:
Mr. Ayers wrote a memoir, "Fugitive Days," published in 2001, and on the day of the September 11 terrorist attacks, he was quoted by the New York Times as saying: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."I held out from writing about the Obama - Ayers connection in the hope that someone would finally go on the record to advance the story in a serious way. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen at this point. I simply could not get Alice Palmer or others in Illinois on the record, try as I might through many angles. ...
... think of the Obama - Ayers ad in the general election. It writes itself. The difference, however, is that Horton was a common murderer, while Ayers was a domestic terrorist who delighted in "disrupting the air war" and equated Marines with terrorists, all of which is on the record.
This is the vein in the Democratic party I will never understand, cannot accept on any level. What is it about some people who just don't get the problems with our Democratic nominee being friendly, even taking a contribution (however small), as well as having a meeting as recently as 1995 with an unrepentant domestic terrorist like William Ayers? ...
This goes well beyond the Rezko connection. In the bad judgment file, any association whatsoever with a domestic terrorist who actively tried to thwart an air war during the Vietnam war, calls our Marines "terrorists," while also being unrepentant about it, shows a lack of seriousness I will never accept.
Of note, the first entry in the usually pro-Taylor Marsh comment section is this:
Wow, Taylor, even for you this is slimy. Senator Clinton is not being served well by this sort of "support".
Oliver Willis | Homepage | 02.22.2008 - 2:46 pm
This was followed by a flame war between Willis and Marsh and her fans.IMPORTANT UPDATE:
It's not just Taylor Marsh. The Clinton campaign is also promoting this story. From ABC news
The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.
"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001. (Obama's ties to the radical group first surfaced last week in a Bloomberg News article.)
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from Politico.com reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another former member of the radical group.
UPDATE 2: It's a coordinated attack. Phil Singer is not a loose cannon. From HillaryClinton.com's blog, this screenshot of a posting
by Howard Wolfson, Communications Director (!)
The politico.com story
linked to is titled:
Obama once visited '60s radicals
Wolfson referred to the story as:
Obama once visited '60s ‘terrorists’
And there's this
Kos diary on the issue.
UPDATE 3: TNR reviews
the issue. Also, a random blog
. And another Kos diary
. Over at MyDD, a comment
that has a Washington Post 'fact check' on the issue. And the right-wing is now on the case. It's mentioned
at the Liberal Fascism blog. But John Podhoretz defends
Barack Obama is in no way responsible for anything William Ayers might have said or done, and anyone who suggests otherwise is guilty of demagougery.
Newshoggers has a post
that shows Hillary Clinton's connections to a former IRA terrorist. Expect this Obama-'terrorist' story to have legs.
These people are out of their minds.
Glad to see you grabbed that screenshot.
Unbelievable. So much for a graceful exit.
Amazingly, it's still up on the Hillary campaign site ...
Shameless. These folks need to lose. Hard.
Ah, the magic of "framing", as used against the left.
Vietnam era "anti-war activists" --> "domestic terrorists"
It's getting picked up all over the right. Mostly because it's true, and it's a sign that the new generation isn't afraid of the 60's generation of street thugs anymore.
You're right. It isn't going away.
Mostly because it's true
If it was true, it wouldn't need your magical framing, you idiot.
What's not going away? This non-story or the rabid right?
It's 2008. Who on earth would be afraid of street thugs from the 60's generation? I've never been attacked by a 60-year-old thug before, but somehow, the thought doesn't exactly frighten me.
Incredible that Taylor Marsh is pushing this story, and John Podohertz, of all people, is defending him. And Taylor, of course, dismisses outright Clinton's own links to 'terrorists,' involving her husbands pardons.
The "responsible for" quote misses the point. Do you make friends with and approve someone who approves and justifies terror bombing? Yes or no, please.